{"id":9557,"date":"2023-09-24T17:01:02","date_gmt":"2023-09-24T16:01:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/?p=9557"},"modified":"2023-09-24T17:21:59","modified_gmt":"2023-09-24T16:21:59","slug":"el-pueblo-decide-revolucion-constitucional","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/el-pueblo-decide-revolucion-constitucional\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00bfEL PUEBLO DECIDE?: REVOLUCI\u00d3N CONSTITUCIONAL"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"466\" height=\"466\" src=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130-466x466.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9559\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130-466x466.png 466w, https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-130.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">(Espa\u00f1ol)<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">PRESENTACI\u00d3N DEL TEMA<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>A menudo he hecho consultas p\u00fablicas de \u00edndole legal. Preguntaba a qui\u00e9n hay que pedir permiso para iniciar un periodo constituyente. O, tambi\u00e9n, qu\u00e9 pasar\u00eda si un representante legal de todos los espa\u00f1oles se presentara en las Cortes. Y entreg\u00e1ndola y en sus manos una nueva <a href=\"https:\/\/dle.rae.es\/constituci%C3%B3n\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Constituci\u00f3n<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Imaginad all\u00ed la Carta magna. Firmada por todos y cada uno de los espa\u00f1oles con poder de obrar o por su inmensa mayor\u00eda. Ley fundacional de una real democracia, en cuya elaboraci\u00f3n habr\u00edan tenido todos oportunidad demostrada de haber participado. Y todo tras consultar no vinculantemente a juristas que, por ello precisamente habr\u00edan educado a los participantes. Educaci\u00f3n imprescindible para que entendiesen c\u00f3mo deber\u00eda ser la forma jur\u00eddicamente eficiente de las voluntades de los espa\u00f1oles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pero nunca me han respondido, ni p\u00fablica ni privadamente. Y es algo que me llama poderosamente la atenci\u00f3n. Y no es para menos, pues la pregunta que hago parece muy f\u00e1cil de responder. Claro est\u00e1, siempre que se haga con l\u00f3gica, honestidad y justicia como gu\u00edas de las posibles respuestas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u00bfA QUI\u00c9N HAY QUE PEDIR PERMISO PARA INICIAR UN PROCESO CONSTITUYENTE?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Si el Poder Legislativo reside en el pueblo es a \u00e9ste a quien compete poder elaborar las normas. Es verdad que el pueblo no ha elegido independientemente a sus representantes para garantizar la representatividad efectiva de esos diputados. Pero entendemos que a pesar de ello cumplen supuestamente esa funci\u00f3n para evitar el vac\u00edo legal. Sin embargo, entiendo que el representado tiene todo el derecho a recusar o a prescindir de los servicios del representante que no cumple bien su trabajo. Y lo hace contratando a otro representante que s\u00ed demuestre realizar el trabajo para el que es contratado. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pero si adem\u00e1s, como ocurre actualmente gracias a la tecnolog\u00eda, no existe necesidad alguna de que el pueblo sea representado por alguien, entonces con mucha m\u00e1s legitimidad puede el que se considera no-representado actuar en su propio nombre sin necesidad de tener que contratar a un nuevo representante.  Ya sabemos que, l\u00f3gicamente, todo acto y voluntad del representado prevalece sobre los del representante que no coincide con ellos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Es en ese sentido que se produce mi primera duda. <strong>\u00bfA qui\u00e9n, pues, tendr\u00eda que pedir permiso el pueblo espa\u00f1ol para constituir su propia constituci\u00f3n? \u00bfA qui\u00e9n tendr\u00edan que pedir permiso para despedir por incompetencia e ineptitud a sus supuestos representantes hasta ese momento?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u00bfY SI SE ENTREGARA UNA NUEVA CONSTITUCI\u00d3N YA FIRMADA POR TODOS O LA INMENSA MAYOR\u00cdA DE LOS ESPA\u00d1OLES?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Del mismo modo, no existe ninguna norma que impida que entre los espa\u00f1oles podamos comunicarnos por diversos medios para conocer opiniones, razonamientos, cr\u00edticas, textos, etc que puedan o no sernos interesantes. Los Derechos fundamentales de la libre expresi\u00f3n, libertad de informaci\u00f3n, libertad de pensamiento, etc, nos avalan y protegen a ese respecto, en teor\u00eda. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Teniendo esto en cuenta, ser\u00eda muy sencillo elaborar el texto de una nueva constituci\u00f3n hipot\u00e9tica con el fin de ver qu\u00e9 opinar\u00edan todos los espa\u00f1oles acerca de la fundamentaci\u00f3n pragm\u00e1tica y jur\u00eddica que cada art\u00edculo tuviese. Fundamentaci\u00f3n pragm\u00e1tica y jur\u00eddica que ser\u00eda ratificada por razonamientos pragm\u00e1ticos y jur\u00eddicos sin lugar a duda alguna. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Y, de este modo, podr\u00edamos entre todos mejorar nuestros criterios a la hora de enjuiciar normas pasadas, presentes o futuras. Con ese fin did\u00e1ctico-pol\u00edtico inalienable, entre todos podr\u00edamos construir una hipot\u00e9tica nueva Constituci\u00f3n como soporte did\u00e1ctico para hacer Filosof\u00eda del razonamiento pol\u00edtico, todo ello <strong>con criterios siempre cient\u00edficos<\/strong>, informados.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Esto tendr\u00eda como consecuencia inevitable que esa constituci\u00f3n-soporte-did\u00e1ctico ser\u00eda de hecho y de derecho igual que un texto realizado por un espont\u00e1neo periodo pac\u00edfico y pedag\u00f3gico constituyente. Y si todos los espa\u00f1oles quisieran finalmente poner su firma a dicho proyecto resultativo no habr\u00eda problema legal alguno en plantearlo legalmente a las Cortes como una nueva constituci\u00f3n propuesta, de facto. Adem\u00e1s, en ese caso, ser\u00eda una constituci\u00f3n que S\u00cd habr\u00eda sido hecha y aprobada por el colectivo colegiado libre y constituyente, puesto que as\u00ed se habr\u00eda dirigido la propuesta a las Cortes, por cualquiera de las v\u00edas legales que tenemos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Es en ese sentido que se produce mi segunda duda. <strong>\u00bfQu\u00e9 tendr\u00eda la legitimidad para rechazar una nueva Constituci\u00f3n realizada en esas condiciones m\u00e1s que ideales?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">CONCLUSI\u00d3N<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Conste que, como siempre, mis preguntas son hipot\u00e9ticas y motivadas, tambi\u00e9n como siempre, con fines did\u00e1cticos. Siempre para intentar que la mayor\u00eda de la gente pueda disfrutar del derecho inalienable de poder percibir la realidad por s\u00ed mismos y de sacar sus propias conclusiones en el ejercicio del aprendizaje de c\u00f3mo obtener el mejor razonamiento. Que es siempre aqu\u00e9l que no puede ser negado racionalmente.\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>[Agust\u00edn Barahona]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">(English)<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">INTRODUCTION OF THE TOPIC<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00abI have often made public legal inquiries. I asked who needs to be asked for permission to initiate a constituent period. Or, also, what would happen if a legal representative of all Spaniards appeared in the Courts. Handing over a new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oed.com\/search\/dictionary\/?scope=Entries&amp;q=Constitution\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">Constitution<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Imagine the Magna Carta there. Signed by each and every one of the Spaniards with the power to act or by the vast majority. Foundational law of a real democracy, in whose elaboration everyone would have had the demonstrated opportunity to participate. And all this after consulting non-bindingly with jurists who would have educated the participants for this very reason. Essential education for them to understand how the legally efficient form of the will of the Spaniards should be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But they have never answered me, neither publicly nor privately. And it is something that catches my attention powerfully. And not for less, since the question I ask seems very easy to answer. Of course, always as long as it is done with logic, honesty, and justice as guides for possible answers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">WHOM SHOULD BE ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO INITIATE A CONSITUENT PROCESS?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>If the Legislative Power resides in the people, it is they who have the competence to elaborate the rules. It is true that the people have not independently chosen their representatives to guarantee the effective representation of these deputies. But we understand that despite this, they supposedly fulfill that function to avoid legal vacuums. However, I understand that the represented person has every right to challenge or dispense with the services of the representative who does not perform his job well. And he does so by hiring another representative who demonstrates that he performs the work for which he is hired.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But if, in addition, as currently happens thanks to technology, there is no need for the people to be represented by someone, then with much more legitimacy, the one who considers himself unrepresented can act on his own behalf without having to hire a new representative. We already know that, logically, every act and will of the represented person prevails over those of the representative who does not agree with them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this sense, my first doubt arises. To whom, then, would the Spanish people have to ask for permission to establish their own constitution? To whom would they have to ask for permission to dismiss their supposed representatives for incompetence and ineptitude up to that moment?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">WHAT IF A NEW CONSTITUTION WERE DELIVERED ALREADY SIGNED BY ALL OR THE VAST MAJORITY OF SPANIARDS?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Similarly, there is no rule preventing Spaniards from communicating through various means to learn about opinions, reasoning, criticisms, texts, etc., that may or may not be of interest to us. Fundamental rights of free expression, freedom of information, freedom of thought, etc., support and protect us in theory in this regard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Taking this into account, it would be very easy to draft the text of a hypothetical new constitution in order to see what all Spaniards would think about the pragmatic and legal foundation that each article would have. Pragmatic and legal foundation that would be ratified by pragmatic and legal reasoning without a doubt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And, in this way, we could all improve our criteria when judging past, present, or future norms. With that inalienable didactic-political purpose, we could all build a hypothetical new Constitution as didactic support to engage in the Philosophy of political reasoning, all with always scientific and informed criteria.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This would inevitably result in that didactic-political support constitution being, in fact and law, the same as a text produced by a spontaneous, peaceful, and pedagogical constituent period. And if all Spaniards finally wanted to put their signature to that resulting project, there would be no legal problem in legally presenting it to the Courts as a proposed new constitution, de facto. In addition, in this case, it would be a constitution that WOULD have been made and approved by the free and constituent collegiate group since the proposal would have been directed to the Courts through any of the legal avenues we have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is in this sense that my second doubt arises. What would have the legitimacy to reject a new Constitution made in these more than ideal conditions?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">CONCLUSION<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I must state that, as always, my questions are hypothetical and motivated, also as always, for didactic purposes. Always in an attempt to ensure that the majority of people can enjoy the inalienable right to perceive reality for themselves and draw their own conclusions in the exercise of learning how to obtain the best reasoning. Which is always that which cannot be rationally denied.\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>[Agust\u00edn Barahona]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>De inter\u00e9s tambi\u00e9n:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/puede-el-numero-dirigir-algo-por-encima-de-la-razon-el-engano-de-la-democracia\/\"><strong>\u00bfPuede el n\u00famero dirigir por encima de la raz\u00f3n?: el enga\u00f1o de la democracia.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/2723-2\/\"><strong>Sobran los partidos<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/disenar-un-nuevo-pais-no-es-dificil-si-hay-voluntad-real-de-justicia\/\"><strong>Dise\u00f1ar un nuevo pa\u00eds no es dif\u00edcil si hay voluntad real de justicia y eficiencia.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/hay-que-cambiar-urgentemente-el-sistema-partitocratico-agustin-barahona\/\"><strong>Hay que cambiar urgentemente el sistema partitocr\u00e1tico<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/sras-y-sres-hay-que-conseguir-que-las-cortes-agustin-barahona\/\"><strong>Sras y Sres: Hay que conseguir que las Cortes\u2026<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/si-es-verdad-que-no-hay-dinero-ni-para-pensiones\/\"><strong>Si es verdad que no hay dinero \u201cni para pensiones justas\u201d\u2026<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.agustinbarahona.com\/blog\/democracia-es-solo-una-palabra-comodin-como-agustin-barahona\/\"><strong>\u00abDemocracia\u00bb es s\u00f3lo una palabra comod\u00edn, como\u2026<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/isegoria.revistas.csic.es\/index.php\/isegoria\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>El aforamiento en Espa\u00f1a vulnera la igualdad constitucional del art\u00edculo 14<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realinstitutoelcano.org\/analisis\/espana-en-el-mundo-2023-perspectivas-y-desafios-de-politica-europea\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>\u00bfInterferencias judiciales en pol\u00edtica?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Espa\u00f1ol) PRESENTACI\u00d3N DEL TEMA A menudo he hecho consultas p\u00fablicas de \u00edndole legal. Preguntaba a qui\u00e9n hay que pedir permiso para iniciar un periodo constituyente. O, tambi\u00e9n, qu\u00e9 pasar\u00eda si un representante legal de todos los espa\u00f1oles se presentara en las Cortes. Y entreg\u00e1ndola y en sus manos una nueva Constituci\u00f3n. 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